you will see that came to us from other sources, people who offered us information. we said we are not investigating like that, we're investigating this individual, carter page, and we'll use confidential sources to get close to him, collect information about him, completely consistently with our guidelines and policies. that's what the i.g. found and we went to the fisa, surveillance surl on the campaign. >> it's not unusual for an i.g. to do a report and come back with finding problems. it is very rare that they find nothing. >> that's right. >> the idea that these 17 things, when you look at this list, does that list img press you in terms of, holy cow, we messed up here more than we normally should. >> it does and here's why i say that. the department of justice runs every year, run as rigorous oversight program on the fisa