be taken by you -- if you want a new phone -- he probably went out and got a new phone because he knew the one that was traveling with when he was in wyoming and utah was going to be take tony him. >> he said to the cops in utah, i don't have a phone. i don't know if you remember that, on the video. who knows what is true or what isn't. he gets it on the 4th. he disappears on the 14th. that's ten days of data that they have on that phone. valuable? why? >> look, i have mapquest on my phone, other mapping -- google maps and things, if i am going to take a trip oftentimes i see how long it is going to take me and what route it is going to send me on and i can choose what route i want to take. if he was doing research on that phone as far as where he was going to go, routing and times and places are going to be in those mapping applications. >> also, it wasn't a burner phone. they say out there it's a burner phone. as we know, those are very limited device. this was a real phone, smart phone.