one we saw on the utah, moab body cam, they told -- the lawyer probably told him, that phone will be taken by you. if you want a new phone -- we all need phones, right? he probably got a new phone because the one he was traveling with in wyoming and utah, was going to be taken. >> he said to the cops in utah, i don't have a phone. i don't know if you remember that. on the video, who knows what is true or what isn't. he gets it on the 4th and disappears on the 14th. ten days of data on that phone. valuable, why? >> i have map quest on my phone. i have other google maps and things if i take a trip, i see how long it will take me. what route it will send me on. if he was doing research on that phone, as far as where he was going to go, routing and times and places, are going to be in those mapping applications. >> also, it wasn't a burner phone. they say it's a burner phone.