spread the anti-vaxxer b.s. listen. >> the trump people, the only pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated, and they're killing people. >> it's a hefty charge. let's take it to the better minds, smerconish and dr. lena wen, "lifelines, a doctor's journey in the fight for public health." good to have you both. smersh, help me. he creates the vaccine, look operation warp speed was great. republican, what? why? >> she's sacrificing one of the best arguments that he has. because by your own statistics and anecdotally i can bear that out because i've watched most of those appearances, he really doesn't assert himself out and take credit to the full extent. why is that the case? i think to the extent there's