whether it was i don't believe it it is all [ bleep ]. i was ready for just about anything. >> when i was contacted by lise olsen, whom i did not know, i had no idea that there had ever been a question about the result in the cantu case or that anybody was looking at it for that matter. >> i met with him in his office in a quiet room. we spent an hour. i took him through it step by step slowly. i showed him the fact that juan moreno had said that he had never believed that ruben cantu was the shooter. that he felt that he had to identify cantu because that's who police wanted him to identify. >> lise had also uncovered information about officers bill ewell and joe dilaluz, who both had a vested interest in fingering ruben cantu as the killer. >> both bill you'll and joe delaluz had a history of