the ends goal we should always be striving for. and the great achievement we've had such as obamacare, there's people that are left off of that. our goal must be to have a system that puts people before profit. and ultimately makes sure that every american has coverage. there's one way to do that and that's many ed care for all. >> why isn't that popular with the component of getting rid of insurance? >> i don't know why people think the way they think. >> it is popular. >> it's not if you look at the electorate as a whole. >> single payer is popular. >> when you ask people, do you believe in what mayor pete is for, medicare for those who want it. that remains popular. when you go the extra step and you force people to give up private insurance, and people don't love companies and love their banks, but there's people who like the coverage they have. that doesn't mean we shouldn't worry about the people who don't have coverage. and when you add in all of the