that i talk to regularly. and i mean it's -- it's devas devastating. i mean to know that i went there on january 6th to do my job, did my job and succeeded along with hundreds of other police officers, and then to have people demonize me or dismiss, you know, my account of that day or just the reality of that day, i mean it's -- it's devastating. >> before we end this conversation, i want to talk to you about -- this is personal for you because you knew officer gunther hashida very well. what do you want people to know about him, mike? >> gunther and i came on the