>> yeah, yeah. >> we use over and over again. because it's a term that doesn't allow for nuance. canceling harvey weinstein for what he did or charlie rose or mark halperin is very different than penalizing somebody like billy bush for saying something stupid and being at the wrong place at the wrong time and being the one who carried the blame so nbc could somehow continue going along. you know, i don't like that term, cancel culture. sometimes it's not canceling. sometimes it's consequence culture. sometimes it's accountability culture. sometimes it's responsibility culture. and i do think that as we look at it in hindsight what happened to billy bush was too much and it was not -- and even more so when you put it in perspective to what happened to donald trump, which was absolutely nothing. >> yeah. ana, that video -- the night that video came out you were certainly fired up on this show. let's play it. >> oh, lord. >> every single republican is going to have to answer the