and how people saying he's being canceled. cancel culture doesn't write emails last i checked. he canceled himself. he did this. this is his responsibility, and this is all on him. i will say, don, one of the most interesting parts of this to come next, i think, are these emails. hundreds of thousands of them. the nfl so far is refusing to release them. but i think -- and i think you may agree with me. like there's a thousand pandora's boxes in those emails, and there's probably a lot more grudens in those emails. that's the next big part of this story. gruden is a significant part of it. he's sort of the beginning of it. but the next big part of it is what happens with these emails? do they get released? what's in them because in those emails, i guarantee you, are a ton of bombshells, some of which may make gruden just look small. >> do you think there are some nervous people out there in the nfl going -- or just in