talked to the lawyers for these parents was around 4:00. and at that time the lawyers said they had not spoken to their clients. so of course, now, the big question is where are they? there certainly doesn't appear to be any, any reason to believe that at this point that the parents intend to surrenderer, don. >> it is really so bizarre. i mean, what happened to you there this evening with the parents and of course, this horrific, horrific shooting with teenagers dead. thank you, appreciate it. i want to bring in senior law enforcement analyst andrew mccabe and casey jordan as well. they both join us. good evening to both of you. andrew, the crumbleys with drew $4,000 today about half an hour from oxford. how much will that help law enforcement track them down? $4,000. that's a lot of money to be able