in position to be able to cred play say we are going to apply these sanctions is about the best they can hope for in this situation. >> ron, your take on an interview that alexandria ocasio-cortez did with david remnick of "the new yorker." this is a clip where they talk about the future of our democracy. here it is. >> you used a phrase earlier in the midst of this, if we have a democracy ten years from now. do you think we won't? >> i think there is a very real risk that we will not. i think what we risk is having a government that perhaps postures as a democracy and may try to pretend that it is, but isn't. >> she is talking about attacks on voting rights and republicans who won't admit an election defeat. do you -- what do you think? do you share her concerns?