this position. >> you have to look at the adults in her life, right? she is a minor. let's go back to 2014. russia just instigated a so-called doping scheme at the games. had the doping committee addressed this back then, is russia so emboldened by violating the rules? >> absolutely. time and time again, the ioc and the court of arbitrations have given russia a free pass. there is no need for cultural change. they will simply continue with business as usual. we put that on the organizations. the organizations i run now and the other independent athlete groups, we've been calling for reforms for the past seven years of these organizations, to have a 50-50 partnership with athletes and sport to ensure this never happens again. like i said, it's politics over principle and who loses out in