not surprised. casual racism. ahmaud arbery's family didn't want a plea deal for his killers in the hate-crime trial. and with all that, you can certainly understand why. >> what i thought all along was -- was true. that travis killed ahmaud, not because ahmaud committed a crime, it's because amaraud was black and travis was truly a racist. >> it is just really a shame they got that much hate in them for african-american people. it just really a shame. >> man, that that's a sickness. >> strong words from ahmaud arbery's family. those words in that courtroom today are a sickness. they are like poison. how did those words land when you hear them? for people who look like me, it's like the words are slapping you in the face. the hate, the race iism, right?