i refuse that paradigm and that framework. you see i come from a great people where we do the framing. we do the defining of how we proceed. and then we're not surprised by that vicious behavior of the police visa vi the black brother -- >> well, let me ask you this. i totally get the point you're making, and having framed that way we may not see these things in order to be able to frame it or react to it or figure out how do we make it better if there wasn't videotape. you think about all the instances of racial bias that we don't see that aren't caught on tape, do we have a true understanding of just how bad it may be so that we can counteract that with the good that you say? >> well, that's a wonderful question. i think we should assume that it is worse. i mean, that's the whole history