trayvon's mother, sabrina fulton, allison and all the way up, michael brown's mother leslie. but obviously, i want to uphold these black fathers too, like trayvon's father tracy martin, certainly amir locke's father andre, and then certainly marcus arbery. it's only right, don lemon, we stand up together in unity and fight for our children. >> and marcus, i appreciate you joining us. and what you've done and ben is right on about the fathers stepping up as well. i know this must be bittersweet for you right now because it doesn't bring your son back. what was it like hearing that verdict read out today and you walked out of that courtroom and you locked hands and held your arms up high. what was that like? >> oh, it just took a lot of pressure out of my heart because my family struggled with the