calls from russia saying what is going on? is this changing? >> do you think this is going to make i'm not sure, don, because, again, a lot of people -- you see, the machine, the propaganda machine, has been working for 22 years so effectively that even if solyovyov oregon propagandists try to turn all the way around, the public opinion won't turn around overnight. >> it will take a while. it's so ingrained. >> they've been so brainwashed. the first doctrine putin signed when it came to the kremlin was the so-called information security doctrine. and then first all state television was under control of the kremlin, then all national newspapers. then at some point all online media, all radio stations, then