why do you say that? >> well, because vladimir putin invaded ukraine. the war is started. once that happens, military force is kind of a gravitational, you know, force, and that will only change -- that dynamic changes either, you know, when the military achieves its objective or encounters an insurmountable obstacle that forces the leadership to increase its calculations. we aren't at that point yet. >> you said until vladimir putin changes his calculation or adjusts his expectations. he's not going to negotiations. so what needs to happen to get him to change his expectations? is that even realistic? >> i mean, it is realistic in the sense that we now have a battlefield, what happens on the battlefield matters. you know, the good news here as we've been talking about is the ukrainians are putting up a hell of a fight.