civil aims, civil targets. >> look, i know you guys say that you're not targeting civilians, and you've just told me it was a special military operation, which is i know what the kremlin military censorship demands. it is a war and it is an invasion and we're all watching it all over global television. no matter what you tell your own people. there are so many civilian targets that it's hard to count them right now. and you know, you may deny it but even the chinese, dmitry, even the chinese, who are your friends, have expressed a very, very deep concern about civilian targets. the real question is what is president putin's strategic goal in blasting the civilian infrastructure of places like mariupol, which we are watching turn to smithereens for the last several weeks now? what's the strategic goal? >> well, the strategic goal is