but still, can still find that number in their archives by just getting on their web side. so a lot of he russians aren't g are getting the information just a matter of if they believe it or not. >> listen, it is more than just information. how do you explain this if thousands of young, russian soldiers are fighting in ukraine and not coming back, friends, neighbors, they're going to find out, you can't hide that can you? >> well, you're absolutely right. i was a teenager when the soviet troops were fighting in afghanistan. and the official version was they were fulfilling their peaceful military duty and newspapers and television we saw them planting trees in afghanistan. but i lived in a small town called oriol and like every other week we would receive coffins from afghanistan and we