last president and keep on the trump -- the maga republicans and also bring on the traditional republicans. that's the path forward. but right now what we're seeing with the maga wing of the republican party, the best way to move forward is the maga way. >> the maga wing that mccarthy has empowered. at the rate they're going, they're going to kill their followers, okay, if they continue with this misinformation campaign and looking the other way as people who support them continue exploiting covid. so if they want to call every democrat that's breathing a socialist and use that as a wedge issue, fine. but don't play around with people's lives, and that's what he's doing with the january 6th commission. that's what he's doing, what the republican conference is doing with the response to covid and vaccinations. >> alice, i think a lot of people will agree with you, at