and what he knew in advance, what he was encouraging. or like kash patel, they were at d.o.d. and would have known what was going on behind the scenes on january 6 as he was mulling over the options for trying to stop the insurrection. so this is critical information the committee doesn't yet have. that's why they're important. >> so, jennifer, the biden administration is now taking steps, we know, to release more information on trump's meetings and calls on january 6 to this committee. the white house, as our understanding, is inclined to limit how much it exerts executive privilege. the privilege doesn't protect the commission of a crime. not saying that it happened, but it wouldn't be protected. you know, they are always worried about precedent here and going too far. what do you think the ramifications would be if they just let all this stuff come out? >> it's hard to know and that's why there are some people saying, listen, the president's ability to confer with his advisers to make decisions in emergency situations must not be cabined. you can't say, oh, some day we're going to find out all about what you're saying. the president needs to be free