it. also interesting, they hit a sewer pipe at one point. they thought they could escape through that ala "the shawshank redemption." that is how the character in the movie did that. one other detail the two joked how "the shawshank redemption" character took 20 years to escape from that prison and it took them 10. there was question who was the mastermind. matt escaped twice before. once successfully. it was assumed he was the mastermind. investigators saying it was david sweat. the planning started in earnest in january of 2015 when sweat was moved next to matt's cell. he cut a hole in his cell first and into matt's cell. another inmate heard the sawing and asked matt about it. he said i was just stretching canvases. matt known to draw and paint