treatment for a long time but his language gives us indication of how much work he needs to do on himself. he said he cause add stress on his marriage. what causes a stress on your marriage is not taking the garbage out, not what he did. [ laughter ] >> when he talks about when i made a mistake, he's talking like a cognitive process. he's not using the sex addictive and recovery language where he would be talking about i seeked forgiveness. don't forget, sex addicts know they are in pain and feel bad about it. i can't see him feeling bad about it. >> is this some sort of compulsive -- i mean that word addiction is thrown around a lot and whether or not there is sexual addiction, is this some sort of compulsive behavior? what goes into this? >> it could be acting out, it could be thrill seeking, power,