identified months ago because there was no end game to this strategy. there was no way once you got to shutdown mode and you didn't have the votes, which we never had the votes, then what were you going to do? i think we had the moral high ground to fight on the individual mandate. had we made that case and spent all this money and time and effort saying how come you're giving employers a break and not giving individual a break since obama care is obviously not ready to go primetime. i think we would have had some folks on our side. but instead with all of this politicalization and attacking republicans it's made for with we're at now. >> can i ask you, what is it like on the floor of the house now on the republican side, where you're calling your colleagues lemmings. are there any specific ones that you're talking about? >> so look, first off it's important to be fair here, the democrats are giddy about this behind closed doors. i mean, they think that this is going to give nancy pelosi back