there. i was in overalls and a hat. i was working the cones out there. you are not serious with that question. i don't get involved in traffic studies. so what i can tell you is if people find that hard to believe i don't know what else to say except to tell them i had no knowledge of this, the planning, the execution or anything about it and i first found out about it after it was over. >> and i want to get to the david wildstein question. but let me ask you about that first. he has said again and again and again if it turns out there is a smoking gun and john doesn't see one. if there is, is he done? >> absolutely. he has put his credibility on the line. he knows the implications of this. and he is a savvy politician. if he is lying, he's done. >> and he is taking a huge hit in the polls for this. republican choice for nominee