seems as though the flight plan was entered, a new flight plan was entered into the fms and as if the airplane was maneuvered and that when you look at all those things, it's harded to imagine a scenario in which someone other than one of the pilots could have done it. a totally personal point of view, i've listened to a couple of interviews with the pilot and i've heard people talking about him. i'd seen his resume. he's the kind of guy i would want to fly with. he seeps like a totally standup person and remarkably experienced and expert pilot. that's a personal judgment. as far as the co-pilot is concerned, 2700 hours is not a lot of time, period. for somebody to be in the right seat of a ripple 7 with that amount of time would be very unusual by u.s. standards, probably never done. >> that would not happen. now, arthur, what do you think about this? someone said to me the other day, the pilot was tryingto commit suicide he would have nose dived the plane which is a highly subjective judgment. there are who knows what way you would choose to do that if you