that stands out to you? >> it does stand out to me. if we're talking about 2008, obviously he did this right out of high school. if he was already disenfranfran in high school, of course we don't know why he was dismissed, whether it was a background issue or psychological issue. that's got to have a huge effect on somebody's ego, to be booted out of the army after 30 days. it could have started back then in 2008. >> james, what about the issue of religion here? no one knows exactly what to make of this, right? you heard the reporting that he described himself as nonreligious, nonreligious but spiritual. witnesses saying he asked -- his victims if they were christians and when they said yes, you're going to see your god in a second and he shot them. what role is religion in this? if he was asking their faith? >> well, if you describe yourself as spiritual, you're probably not going to take out other people for different spirituality or religious