heap of poop on the kitchen table. toents dogbe about a new house. get the poop out. they are very enthusiastic sfl. >> that sounds like a turn of phrase from paul. thank you for the mental image. one harris campaign adviser offered up great cnn reporting offered up very candid assessment of her campaign right now to cnn, saying that the day that the cnn poll came out this week that had her dropping 12 points -- 12 points from the high after the first debate, that that was quote the lowest point of the campaign thus far. do you grow with that? >> not at all. and i think that governor granholm will agree with me in this sentiment as someone -- i wasn't as successful in my statewide races as she was. she is more talented than i. but the campaigns, eb and flow.