the things that the generals in this war, the doctors tell us are necessary to protect human life. the governor is looking at polls. he's no longer even talking to his own medical experts, he's looking at polls of what republican primary voters want to hear and working from there. but the virus doesn't care about that. it only cares about finding a new host. >> so when you look at texas, your state leads the nation in covid hospitalizations. you lag only florida in adult hospitalizations. do you believe governor abbott's policies, his open defiance of mask mandates perhaps top of the list bear any actual blame for that? >> of course. and it's not just what i believe. it's what doctors believe and when we have these temporary injection hearings, we had one today inb bexar county, there will be more. you'll hear from pediatric infectious disease experts that will tell you that.