and so if vaccines become another political issue that we divide ourselves on as society, that's going to impact covid vaccinations and vaccines as cross the board. we need to tread carefully and make sure the incremental benefit we're getting in terms of additional people vaccinated is going to have enough public health payoff that it's worth the policies we're enacting. right now i think we'll get to 80% based on current policies and the good work of the administration. i don't think we're going to get above 85%. a lot of people who remain unvaccinated probably had covid, so they have some immunity. so we really need too look from a public health standpoint what the marginal gains are from the increments of people that were getting vaccinated for the policies that we're implementing. i'm not saying they're bad policies but they need to be judged very carefully against the longer-term implicates. >> right, so it isn't just punitive, or -- right, thank you so much, dr. gottlieb, i appreciate your time. >> thanks a lot. next, the breaking news, we have new body cam video that has just come out of an officer