>> nothing was getting done. i mean, hq is this patient on the operating table bleeding out and there's two doctors standing over the body arguing each other and the patient's dying. we were in a total stasis and at the same time hemorrhaging followers. >> it's a small office, so people are talking to each other. they're worried, right, like, is this going to exist? am i going to have a job? >> i was living, breathing and sleeping hq, literally to the point where i was not sleeping because of hq. i mean, someone had to raise the alarm here. and that ended up being me. that's when i called the board members and the main investors. >> the board, which is small, there's only four people, including both co-founders,