the board, which is small -- there's only four people including both co-founders -- starts talking. hey, should colin be the ceo instead of rus? >> colin as ceo. and for rus, it was anyone but colin. >> shortly, if not immediately after the conversation, i got a tip that there had been a formal complaint filed by an hq employee. >> this woman had a complaint against colin. i don't believe it was sexual in nature. it was more just like a sort of like the way she was being treated. and she brought that up to rus, and from what i understand, the general sentiment is that rus kind of used that against colin as ammo to kind of push away the whole colin as ceo notion.