mouth of the lead. you see it through the acts of his men. michael nixon, all president's men, nixon and mitchell, all executed. the points that were made earlier today is impossible to believe that rocker and sondland and rudy giuliani and secretary perry were doing this on their own. it is just not credible. if you are before a jury, you would say exactly that. it is an incredible story to police chief that these guys conducting foreign policies without the direction of the lead which is the president. >> but, ron, where is the howard baker this time around? >> extraordinary. we almost accepts without kind of reaction that the entire house republican caucus viewed itself as defending the