international climate change conference where he wants to say the united states is back and we're going to cut our emissions 50% by 2030. it's going to be a much harder sell for him to say that if he doesn't have the goods to deliver it. and the goods right now are in that legislation. >> in some ways it feels like we are farther away from a deal than we were a few weeks ago. you have bernie sanders and joe manchin sparring with each other in public, and you still have a litany of policy issues that haven't been resolved from climate change, medicare expansion, drug pricing. these are major, major components of the agenda. i think my question is at what point does the white house put its foot down and say this is where we're at, it's time to move forward? up until this point they have treated joe manchin and kyrsten sinema with kid gloves. they don't want to paint themselves in a corner, but they don't have a lot of leverage points. >> they haven't done that, they haven't put their foot down. that, i think, has been some kind of a frustration for some dems that the white house hasn't