pollster. i think there's a misconception that he's surrounded by a circus clown with paint on their face. there's seasoned operatives in his orbit. that's a separate question of who does he stuff his administration with, which is a much more colorful question. from what i understand from my reporting, and i did a big series on this, you know, it's a question of what can he get away with? who can he get confirmed, and if he can't get them confirmed, he will put them in the white house. take cash patel, who bill barr who was the attorney general said, over my dead body will you make him the deputy fbi director or deputy cia director. trump would like to make him a senior position in the national security infrastructure. >> which is somewhat he did when he was president before. this is not a departure --