get into later in the program about the calendar is just going to completely consume the presidential election season. but for voters, at what point did republican voters say these legal problems could be problematic for our nominee of our party? >> well the base of the party, if you speak to them, i was recently in iowa are just not there yet, manu. but i can't get out of my mind that republicans have long claimed ownership of law and order. sometimes in explicitly racialized ways. and now the standard bearer, the face of their party is facing four criminal indictments, and is fundraising off of a mug shot. so our politics are truly upside down in this country. the very same institutions that republicans have long held up as part of the example of why america is a great country, there are now castigating those very same institutions. so it is -- i mean, really, post