argument that republican -- the republican party and republican candidates often make. and it speaks powerfully to the white when you have a candidate of color as the messenger but democrats make too much of racism, that they talk too much about white supremacy and ramaswamy said he doesn't encounter every day racism. but listen, the facts are the facts. he also, i would argue, inartfully went after congresswoman presley, likening her to a member of the klan. dana in her interview this morning tried to press him on that and that would have been a perfect opportunity saying my rhetoric went a little too far. >> i'm glad that you brought that up. because this is what happened this morning. >> when i said the grand wizard of the kkk would be proud of what they heard her say because there is nothing more racist than saying that your skin color predicts something about the --