distinction and the when the powerpoint surfaced he said he didn't receive this or face on, but if you're the white house chief of staff and you don't shut down discussions like this, you're part of it, and it's not clear that not just trump and not just a few extremists mike flynn, sydney powell and rudy giuliani on the outside were involved. people in the white house in the most senior positions were assisting this process, sustaining this process encouraging many jump to get going. he's been indicted. i don't want to get indicted and i want to stay on the good side of the extremist wing of the republican party and that's trump. that's why we saw the fights with the steve bannos and mark meadows tend to overshadow what