seriously. he's always paranoid about what is going to happen. it's not a question he's been extra concerned watching ocasio-cortez come up, beat an incumbent in a primary and have to see whether he would have to worry about that himself. he's been making moves to protect himself against that. >> maybe, manu, chuck schumer thought not telling the white house and nancy pelosi about the conversations, maybe he thought that would work last year. what are the lessons as we look forward? have these democrats and schumer figured out how to work in the new year, or are they still in what you'd have to say has been so far difficult but dysfunction? >> well, that's been the problem for them is because they have promised so much. they can get so much done without recognizing or at least publicly dealing with the reality here, they have a 50/50 senate and three votes they could lose in the house and any one defection could scuttle their entire efforts. in a lot of ways they have not.