actually a tall spire and it has come down in total. it was about 7.6 in the richter scale. it was never ending, the ground shook, it never ended. after that, many, many aftershocks which continued. so people are out of their buildings, out of their neighborhoods into any bit of open space they can find. and in these matters, even though the people -- they know enough that aftershocks can actually kill as much as the premier shock. so people are waiting for the aftershock and being very careful and they are being very scared. >> well, kanak, where were you when you talked about it lasting so long? where were you, the last guest couldn't quite figure out this was an earthquake occurring.