>> reporter: now, after 9/11, the bush administration stepped up surveillance programs. about that in mind, i asked president bush his reaction to the edward snowden leaks. do you think he's a traitor? >> i know he damaged the country. the obama administration will deal with it. >> reporter: do you think it's possible for one man to damage the security of the nation? >> i think he damaged the security of the country. >> reporter: and when it comes to surveillance, there can be real time understanding of what you're googling -- >> i put the program in place to protect the country. and one of the certainties is civil liberties were guaranteed. >> reporter: so you don't think there is a compromise? >> i think there needs to be a balance and as the president described, there is a proper balance. aren aren >> reporter: you don't want to criticize the obama administration? >> it doesn't do any good.