looking forward and seeing no -- pilots internally, we say it's just going to come down to that one pilot and a dog. and the dog's only there to bite the pilot if he touches something. but we all know it's unrealistic will. >> i also feel that. it's an emotional response. >> sure. >> and i share it. but the way that the world is changing is to take humans out of the loop. it used to be you wanted to buy an air ticket, you went to the travel agent. we're se-- >> couple topics i want to get to quickly. training. we know the training has changed. are the younger pilots being trained on more automated systems, are they at a disadvantage if they have to revert to manual systems in the case of an merge or is that not