come in advice and assist just like our special forces has done. i think what he's saying is hey, america, you put your toe, you dabble your toe here, dabble your toe here we're prepared to come in and jump in with both feet. my point is this i think we either jump in with both feet it doesn't have to be 100,000 soldiers, we have this advise and assist mission allow those forces to help lead coach and mentor those forces. if we're not going to do that do what he said let's pull up let's go home and see what happens. >> well the big challenge is going to be everybody keeps saying what happens next what happens next. winning on the ground as ugly and bloody as it is seems to be the easy part philip. how do you bring stability to a government that didn't happen the last time and wound up spawning what we're dealing with right now? they're all just offshoots of the old party. that's why isis has any intelligence to it at all at the command structure is because they're saddam hussein's old