relying a lot on the shia militias and the sons of the various tribes specifically in anbar the sunni tribes. >> so you're saying it's not so much about the heart of the men on the field, it's about the heads of the people telling them what to do. >> yeah. that's exactly right. and it's tough circumstances out there. you know anyone that says the iraqi forces threw down their weapons and ran away from ramadi really don't know what they're talking about. it's been a tough fight out there for the last 12 to 18 months. the fight with isis coming in torato to ramadi i think we'll see reports isis used a lot of different kinds of tactics, more suicide bombs, sniepers. they got off social media for a few days before the attack so the iraqi intelligence which monitors that were not seeing what was going on. and isis kind of was judging their enemy. so in fact in the weeks leading up to the main assault by isis into ramadi you're talking about isis adapting to their foes. what's got to happen now is the