it all. joe biden. third time a charm for joe. running for president again, is he? we have a friend of the bidens since the '80s when he was a presidential candidate then. i see the tide rushing in behind you in the picture this morning. possible metaphore for momentum gathering for joe biden. do you think he will run, ma'am? >> chris, if he -- if he follows his heart and he does do what bo wanted him to do i believe he will. but, at this point, i really don't know. as close as i am to him, if he will run or not. >> i see you have your american flag on. you are in political mode. i have to suspect you are lobbying him to run. why? >> i'm not really lobbying him