owning this? >> for very much the reason that sara was suggesting. you've got a base for whom this sort of talk is just cat nip. they just love it. they want to hear it every day. they want to hear it on talk radio. they want to hear it from the candidates on facebook, from all of their friends. he's really faced, donald trump is, with a really important choice. do you play to that base and stay at 25% and watch everybody blow past you eventually? or do you try to disavow some of them or try to build a winning campaign? >> we'll talk about all of this when donald trump joins us like on "new day" at 7:00. sara, errol, thank you so much. let's go to washington, d.c. and talk more about the pope's visit. chris cuomo is there. >> boy, you couldn't plan it any better at the time we're seeing this, alisyn, in this culture, how negative it is, how divisive, here comes the pope.