wasn't true. >> ben -- let's switch topics. begala wins on that one. in terms of the ideological make-up, what do you make of jim webb's potential, looking at a third party run? >> it's a nonissue. he's not polling where he is. why would he do better as an independent? bernie sanders would be someone that i would be worried about if he ran as a third party candidate that could be a major problem to hillary clinton if she gets the nomination or joe biden for that matter. this is literally pointless and meaningless in the overall scheme of things. it will have no impact on election day. to say the democrats rejected me, now i'll be a third party kind of guy just doesn't make any sense at all. >> i'm still shocked that o'malley didn't get a bump. i'm rarely as wrong as i was. i watched that debate. i was like, he's comporting