budget that's where the real growth is just isn't going to work. >> that's one side of the argument. we will see where it goes. obviously you have your deadline looming. another topic of the day, what is going on with all the hacking? this guy that was 0 our air this morning, his voice was described but he sounds like a dope yet he was able to hack, allegedly, the director of the cia. do you think that that happened? and if so, what is going on with our security on the internet? >> i don't have -- i can't confirm either way about whether or not it happened. i know it can happen. one of the problems is, chris, the good news is, we're the most wired society on earth. we're the most advanced technologically. the bad news is, that that makes us the most vulnerable. i had a thing up in maine recently for maine businesses about cyber security. by the way, we hope to have a cyber security bill on the floor as early as today. it should have been some months ago. hey, i'm not going to argue. let's get it done this week. but people have to be aware that there are all kinds of bad guys