tremendous numbers of tens of thousands of jobs and built a great company. i've never done this. i would say you have three or four or five people that would have a shot. >> and in terms of dr. carson, you've said some of the questions about his past are fair. there have been questions about what really happened, what his childhood was like. he said at the debate the other night i have a problem with being lied about. do you believe he's being truthful now that you've heard his answers? >> first of all, i like him. i get along with him very well. this is in his book. i'm not bringing up anything that's not in his book. when he says he went after his mother and wanted to hit her in the head with a hammer, that bothers me. that's pretty bad. when he says he's pathological and he says that in the book, i don't say that. again, i'm not saying anything other than pathological is a very serious disease. and he said he's pathological, somebody said he has a pathological disease. other people said he said in the book, i haven't seen it, i know