know, both lawyers, very different styles. one goes poetic, the other goes legalese on us, and i think you're going to see the two of them clash a lot, which i'm not sure doesn't open up a space for another candidate, maybe jefferies, maybe somebody else. >> jeffrey what about this one? the chance that donald trump picks a female running mate before the convention? >> before the convention? >> yes. >> possible, yeah, sure. i can see it. >> possible. it's possible that alyson knocks me unconscious in the next 15 seconds. >> probable! >> you know, so i think, sure, absolutely. absolutely. i mean, if donald trump wins this nomination or it becomes certain ahead of time that he's going to do it, yeah. yes. that's possible. he could pick carly fiorina. >> oh, come on, jeffrey! he can't stand carly fiorina. he has said over and over again, five minutes of hearing her voice is, you know -- >> but carly holds her own in the debate. >> wait. wait, wait, wait, wait.